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2010
"Look now at Williams chart. He has, not Mars applying to Jupiter, but Mars applying to Saturn. If Mars/Jupiter elevates absolutely, Mars/Saturn hurls down. Please note that I am choosing my words with great care when I say that William will not be king. I do not know why he will not reign [...] Charles grandson, yet to be born, who will rule from an early age. He already has the promise of Mars & Jupiter conjunct. Which puts his birth in July, 2013"
Mai 2011
W
AS final at about 11:30 am BST,
April 29, 2011, Westminster.
The good news: The wedding
will produce a male heir. The 5th house
cusp, of children, was fertile Scorpio. Ruler
Mars was strongly placed in Aries, conjunct
Jupiter in the 10th. These are unmistakable
marks of royalty, note them well. This
yet-to-be-conceived king will be headstrong,
heartless and prone to acts of cruelty, but I
will not live to see his reign. Well, its been
a couple of days. Maybe hes on his way!
The bad news: Just about everything
else. I was asked if this was an elected chart,
but that was before I had seen it. The merest
glance? No court astrologer who valued
his life would have anything to do with this
awful disaster. This is another in a series of
Windsor mistakes. The chart (pg. 5) is essentially
a staggering stellium, beginning
with the void Moon at 26 Pisces, with Uranus,
Venus, Mars, Jupiter all in Aries, and
the Sun ending it at 8 Taurus. All opposed
by retrograde Saturn in Libra.
Saturn immediately makes us think there
is some powerful person who opposes this
marriage, as this is inherent in such an opposition.
The list of candidates is quite short,
and the guilty party will have a clear astrological
signature, thus removing any doubt.
Could it be the elderly Queen? No. She
has no placements in Libra. Could it be the
late Lady Diana Spencer, Princess of Wales?
No. Kate Middletons parents? They have
no serious standing in matters of state.
How about William & Kate, themselves?
Okay. In wedding charts the bride is forever
the Moon. This Moon is void in Pisces,
stranded in a cadent house. A very pretty
lass, but lacking power, lacking position,
lacking direction, lacking stamina.
Prince Bill? He is represented by the Sun
in Taurus, which falls outside the powerful
Aries stellium, having no association with
the MC. Does the Sun not have rights in
Aries? Yes he surely does, but he is forever
upstaged when Mars, the actual ruler, is itself
in that sign. We then see the Sun is
square to the Ascendant, meaning the groom
was decidedly uneasy about the ceremony.
We will learn why in a moment.
I really dont see the point of looking at
William & Kates natal charts, the wedding
chart is so awful it could hardly be redeemed
by the natals. I hear they both have Venus at
26-ish Pisces, such that the wedding Moon
at the same degree would link the charts in
nuptial bliss. With a void Moon in a cadent
house, this is a false hope, for such a Moon
is too weak for the job. Yes, Lilly says the
Moon void in Pisces performs, but she will
not perform well.
Then we turn to Charles, the Crown
Prince. And we are astonished to find he has
5 Leo rising, while the wedding of his eldest
son has 7 Leo rising. The houses of these
two charts are virtually identical. Which,
when combined with the relative weakness
of the lights in the wedding chart, makes his
sons wedding entirely Chucks affair.
In Charless natal chart we find Neptune
& Venus both in Libra, conjunct the Saturn
in the marriage chart, thus confirming
Charles as Saturn in the wedding chart. In
his chart we also find a Mars/Jupiter conjunction,
which is, again, a sign of royalty, but in
Chucks case we find it intercepted in the 5th,
one of a number of indicators that Charles
might reign briefly, but most likely, not at
all. (The further analysis: Charles will become
king when Mars (the Knight/Prince)
conjuncts, i.e., becomes Jupiter (the King),
but, alas, the king escapes into Capricorn before
the prince can capture him. Note that Capricorn
is the Queens rising sign. When
Charles Jupiter escaped to Capricorn, thus denying
Chuck his prize, it instead reaffirmed
his mothers rule. Fate. An astute astrologer
could have foreseen this 20 minutes after
Chucks birth. Perhaps a brave one did.) F the many factors that doom the
wedded bliss of William and Kate,
I may point out three critical oppositions:
First, Saturn opposite Jupiter. This is an
aspect of failure. The two planets are naturally
inverted, one to the other. Jupiter in
Aries in 10 is the exuberance of public life.
Which is important in a royal marriage, that
the Prince & Princess are seen together in
public. Saturn in 3 is the daily drudgery of
satisfying common expectations, of, essentially,
never being good enough. As hard as
Jupiter will try to shine, Saturn, retrograde in
3 (the house of the media), will refuse to give
the couple credit for their efforts.
Second, Saturn is opposite Mars. Saturn
& Mars are not opposite by temperament.
They merely hate each other. Note that both
of these planets are strong by sign. As Mars
is slightly stronger than Saturn, he will be
able to plunge ahead before Saturn, tardy
both because of its nature, as well as being
retrograde, can put a stop to things. Since
Mars represents the male half of the marriage
and Saturn, as we have discovered, represents
his father, it will be as if Chuck has William
on a very public leash. The conflict is, again,
between daily obligations (3rd house) and
Williams public persona (10).
The marriage Sun in Taurus is ruled by
Venus in Aries, which is ruled by Mars in
Aries, which ends the matter, so far as rulerships
are concerned. All the more telling that
this Sun is not only square to the wedding
ascendant, it is also square to his fathers ascendant,
thus reaffirming Daddys role and
Williams resulting disquiet.
Saturn at 12 Libra, Jupiter & Mars at 21
Aries, are these wide orbs? Yes, but remember
that aspects are formed by signs. Degrees
merely indicate intensity. Flabby astrology
that takes no note of signs and houses
has limited orbs as a result. When houses
are included the effects of whole-sign aspects
can be clearly seen. BUT perhaps worst of all is the insidious
Saturn-Venus opposition, only two degrees
from exact. Were this chart the product
of a court astrologer, this aspect alone
would cost the fool his very life.
In the wedding chart Venus is debilitated
in Aries. Which proves this marriage was
not about love, regardless of what William
and Kate feel about each other. Royal weddings
are never about love, which is another
indication this is a royal chart, not a normal
one. Mars, the ruler of Aries, placed in Aries,
has conquered Venus. Note that Venus,
which has a strong affinity both for Pisces &
the Moon, is in this chart the de facto ruler
of the Moon, as Venus upstages Jupiter, distracted
by Mars. Which makes Venus the de
facto representative of Kate, the bride.
All debilitated planets long to be in the
house opposite, perhaps never more so as
when the planet that rules it is crowding it in
the same sign. So to where does Kate (Venus)
flee? Battered in Aries, she runs directly
to the security of Saturn in Libra (Chuck),
her father-in-law. A stressed Venus will always
do this, will always run to the dull safety
of Saturn if it happen to be in Libra. Kate
has become a pawn in an ongoing father-son
quarrel that, if the squares from marriage Sun
to marriage/daddy ascendants are any guide,
simmers, but never quite comes to a boil. In
other words, William will tend to link the fate
of his marriage to his father.
But still there is more. What are father
and son fighting for? For what purpose has
the innocent Kate been enlisted, and to what
end will she be sacrificed? Well, as it happens
the wedding chart is not merely a titanic
set of oppositions. It is also a T-square.
Charles and William are fighting over the
apex, the focal point of the T-square: Pluto
in Capricorn.
Which turns out to be the monarchy, represented
by the Queen herself. Elizabeth has
Capricorn rising. Its ruler, Saturn, can be
found in Scorpio, at the very top of her chart.
(Which is yet another royal indicator.) She
is now elderly, though remember her mother
lived to be 101. This utter perfection of astrological
symbolism must be seen to be believed.
In the wedding chart, the Queen turns
up in the 6th house of health, represented by
Pluto, the planet of profound, intense transformation.
It is the Queens health that is
being fought over, and when the Queen is no
more, the T-square between Mars (William),
Saturn (Charles) and Pluto will bring a naked
struggle for succession. When the Queen
is finally gone, will the father charge ahead
and claim the kingdom as his own? Charles
Mars in Sagittarius is ever hopeful of attaining
its aim. Or will the massed forces of Aries
in the wedding chart foil his attempt? Are
the Prince and Princess who were linked on
that fated day stronger than the one who opposes
them?
Can this marriage last? I really dont
know. In the wedding chart, Venus in Aries
links both the Moon (Kate) and the Sun (William),
to the consternation of Saturn (Chuck).
Threesomes, whether happy or not, can be
highly stable. Overall the male party William
is stronger than the female, Kate,
though both suffer. I would expect that Kate,
being both a void Moon in a mutable sign in
a cadent house, as well as a debilitated Venus,
to become emotionally unstable. Which
man will she choose? Mars, who owns her,
or Saturn, who offers old and familiar comforts
if she will but cross the line? For she
cannot have both, and it will come to that.
Which is why the court astrologer who proposed
this date should flee now. Why are
the Windsors so cruel?
This is not about sex. Sex is for the
young. Saturn is old. This is about Kates
loyalty, duty and obedience. What she owes
William as a consequence of her marriage
vows, which the marriage chart represents.
This is not part of the synastry between their
natal charts and so cannot be found in them.
William, in the guise of Mars in Aries, is too
headstrong and careless to notice, and, in the
guise of the Sun in Taurus, is too lazy to bother
with. Thus the opening to Saturn, in the misleading
guise of duty to Charles as representative
of the monarchy.
Di was of noble birth. She would have
seen this coming. Kate is a commoner.
WAS living in London at the last big
royal wedding, of Chuck and Di. Staged
in the much larger St. Pauls Cathedral.
The entire nation had
the day off. I slept in. Hazel, my neighbor,
had a TV & we glanced at it from time to
time. Hazel was a Gemini with Virgo rising,
same as Vivian Robson. As she has been deceased
some 25 years and as it is fruitless to
remind you that Viv was a guy, I may someday
slyly submit her picture as his, since there
are no pictures of Robson whatever. They
must certainly have resembled each other.
But I did see a brief YouTube of William
and Kate exchanging vows. People who care
about these things, people who care about
spectacle, will rehearse the two, will stage
the event so they squarely face each other,
peering far into each others eyes, into their
very souls, such that when the moment arrives,
they will speak their lines with a power
and conviction worthy of royal succession.
Which is what the world expected.
Instead I saw two insecure people rush the
vows. I saw William grind the ring onto Kates
finger. He was dressed all in red like a toy
soldier, as if we needed reminding that Mars,
the planet of red, was in Aries, the red sign at
the very top of the wedding chart. I could almost
smell the mothballs. The two seemed so
much smaller than his father and his bride, at
that other royal wedding, long ago. Can William
and Kate grow into the awesome roles
they must quickly assume? Can they succeed
where Chuck and Di failed?
But to remember that fated day in 1981,
I am old. Two weeks after that wedding I
left my home in London, never to return.
Can your astrology perform these feats
of analysis? No? Why the heck not? As
Goethe said, Be bold! Boldness is its own
reward. As Robson said,
As a word of advice to the beginner I would
say Do not be afraid to let yourself go in
this way. You will make many mistakes to
start with, but it is the only way to make
your Astrology of practical use. There is
too great a tendency nowadays to float about
in a comfortable haze of so-called esotericism.
The first need of Astrology is accuracy
and definition, not pseudo-religious
speculation, and it is only by concentrating
on the practical and scientific side that we
can really make Astrology of service, and
obtain for it the recognition it deserves.
WISH to be completely wrong. I wish
to be proved a fool. A bloody fool. I wish
William and Kate a long and happy life
together. Pray for them.
2010
"Look now at Williams chart. He has, not Mars applying to Jupiter, but Mars applying to Saturn. If Mars/Jupiter elevates absolutely, Mars/Saturn hurls down. Please note that I am choosing my words with great care when I say that William will not be king. I do not know why he will not reign [...] Charles grandson, yet to be born, who will rule from an early age. He already has the promise of Mars & Jupiter conjunct. Which puts his birth in July, 2013"
Mai 2011
W
AS final at about 11:30 am BST,
April 29, 2011, Westminster.
The good news: The wedding
will produce a male heir. The 5th house
cusp, of children, was fertile Scorpio. Ruler
Mars was strongly placed in Aries, conjunct
Jupiter in the 10th. These are unmistakable
marks of royalty, note them well. This
yet-to-be-conceived king will be headstrong,
heartless and prone to acts of cruelty, but I
will not live to see his reign. Well, its been
a couple of days. Maybe hes on his way!
The bad news: Just about everything
else. I was asked if this was an elected chart,
but that was before I had seen it. The merest
glance? No court astrologer who valued
his life would have anything to do with this
awful disaster. This is another in a series of
Windsor mistakes. The chart (pg. 5) is essentially
a staggering stellium, beginning
with the void Moon at 26 Pisces, with Uranus,
Venus, Mars, Jupiter all in Aries, and
the Sun ending it at 8 Taurus. All opposed
by retrograde Saturn in Libra.
Saturn immediately makes us think there
is some powerful person who opposes this
marriage, as this is inherent in such an opposition.
The list of candidates is quite short,
and the guilty party will have a clear astrological
signature, thus removing any doubt.
Could it be the elderly Queen? No. She
has no placements in Libra. Could it be the
late Lady Diana Spencer, Princess of Wales?
No. Kate Middletons parents? They have
no serious standing in matters of state.
How about William & Kate, themselves?
Okay. In wedding charts the bride is forever
the Moon. This Moon is void in Pisces,
stranded in a cadent house. A very pretty
lass, but lacking power, lacking position,
lacking direction, lacking stamina.
Prince Bill? He is represented by the Sun
in Taurus, which falls outside the powerful
Aries stellium, having no association with
the MC. Does the Sun not have rights in
Aries? Yes he surely does, but he is forever
upstaged when Mars, the actual ruler, is itself
in that sign. We then see the Sun is
square to the Ascendant, meaning the groom
was decidedly uneasy about the ceremony.
We will learn why in a moment.
I really dont see the point of looking at
William & Kates natal charts, the wedding
chart is so awful it could hardly be redeemed
by the natals. I hear they both have Venus at
26-ish Pisces, such that the wedding Moon
at the same degree would link the charts in
nuptial bliss. With a void Moon in a cadent
house, this is a false hope, for such a Moon
is too weak for the job. Yes, Lilly says the
Moon void in Pisces performs, but she will
not perform well.
Then we turn to Charles, the Crown
Prince. And we are astonished to find he has
5 Leo rising, while the wedding of his eldest
son has 7 Leo rising. The houses of these
two charts are virtually identical. Which,
when combined with the relative weakness
of the lights in the wedding chart, makes his
sons wedding entirely Chucks affair.
In Charless natal chart we find Neptune
& Venus both in Libra, conjunct the Saturn
in the marriage chart, thus confirming
Charles as Saturn in the wedding chart. In
his chart we also find a Mars/Jupiter conjunction,
which is, again, a sign of royalty, but in
Chucks case we find it intercepted in the 5th,
one of a number of indicators that Charles
might reign briefly, but most likely, not at
all. (The further analysis: Charles will become
king when Mars (the Knight/Prince)
conjuncts, i.e., becomes Jupiter (the King),
but, alas, the king escapes into Capricorn before
the prince can capture him. Note that Capricorn
is the Queens rising sign. When
Charles Jupiter escaped to Capricorn, thus denying
Chuck his prize, it instead reaffirmed
his mothers rule. Fate. An astute astrologer
could have foreseen this 20 minutes after
Chucks birth. Perhaps a brave one did.) F the many factors that doom the
wedded bliss of William and Kate,
I may point out three critical oppositions:
First, Saturn opposite Jupiter. This is an
aspect of failure. The two planets are naturally
inverted, one to the other. Jupiter in
Aries in 10 is the exuberance of public life.
Which is important in a royal marriage, that
the Prince & Princess are seen together in
public. Saturn in 3 is the daily drudgery of
satisfying common expectations, of, essentially,
never being good enough. As hard as
Jupiter will try to shine, Saturn, retrograde in
3 (the house of the media), will refuse to give
the couple credit for their efforts.
Second, Saturn is opposite Mars. Saturn
& Mars are not opposite by temperament.
They merely hate each other. Note that both
of these planets are strong by sign. As Mars
is slightly stronger than Saturn, he will be
able to plunge ahead before Saturn, tardy
both because of its nature, as well as being
retrograde, can put a stop to things. Since
Mars represents the male half of the marriage
and Saturn, as we have discovered, represents
his father, it will be as if Chuck has William
on a very public leash. The conflict is, again,
between daily obligations (3rd house) and
Williams public persona (10).
The marriage Sun in Taurus is ruled by
Venus in Aries, which is ruled by Mars in
Aries, which ends the matter, so far as rulerships
are concerned. All the more telling that
this Sun is not only square to the wedding
ascendant, it is also square to his fathers ascendant,
thus reaffirming Daddys role and
Williams resulting disquiet.
Saturn at 12 Libra, Jupiter & Mars at 21
Aries, are these wide orbs? Yes, but remember
that aspects are formed by signs. Degrees
merely indicate intensity. Flabby astrology
that takes no note of signs and houses
has limited orbs as a result. When houses
are included the effects of whole-sign aspects
can be clearly seen. BUT perhaps worst of all is the insidious
Saturn-Venus opposition, only two degrees
from exact. Were this chart the product
of a court astrologer, this aspect alone
would cost the fool his very life.
In the wedding chart Venus is debilitated
in Aries. Which proves this marriage was
not about love, regardless of what William
and Kate feel about each other. Royal weddings
are never about love, which is another
indication this is a royal chart, not a normal
one. Mars, the ruler of Aries, placed in Aries,
has conquered Venus. Note that Venus,
which has a strong affinity both for Pisces &
the Moon, is in this chart the de facto ruler
of the Moon, as Venus upstages Jupiter, distracted
by Mars. Which makes Venus the de
facto representative of Kate, the bride.
All debilitated planets long to be in the
house opposite, perhaps never more so as
when the planet that rules it is crowding it in
the same sign. So to where does Kate (Venus)
flee? Battered in Aries, she runs directly
to the security of Saturn in Libra (Chuck),
her father-in-law. A stressed Venus will always
do this, will always run to the dull safety
of Saturn if it happen to be in Libra. Kate
has become a pawn in an ongoing father-son
quarrel that, if the squares from marriage Sun
to marriage/daddy ascendants are any guide,
simmers, but never quite comes to a boil. In
other words, William will tend to link the fate
of his marriage to his father.
But still there is more. What are father
and son fighting for? For what purpose has
the innocent Kate been enlisted, and to what
end will she be sacrificed? Well, as it happens
the wedding chart is not merely a titanic
set of oppositions. It is also a T-square.
Charles and William are fighting over the
apex, the focal point of the T-square: Pluto
in Capricorn.
Which turns out to be the monarchy, represented
by the Queen herself. Elizabeth has
Capricorn rising. Its ruler, Saturn, can be
found in Scorpio, at the very top of her chart.
(Which is yet another royal indicator.) She
is now elderly, though remember her mother
lived to be 101. This utter perfection of astrological
symbolism must be seen to be believed.
In the wedding chart, the Queen turns
up in the 6th house of health, represented by
Pluto, the planet of profound, intense transformation.
It is the Queens health that is
being fought over, and when the Queen is no
more, the T-square between Mars (William),
Saturn (Charles) and Pluto will bring a naked
struggle for succession. When the Queen
is finally gone, will the father charge ahead
and claim the kingdom as his own? Charles
Mars in Sagittarius is ever hopeful of attaining
its aim. Or will the massed forces of Aries
in the wedding chart foil his attempt? Are
the Prince and Princess who were linked on
that fated day stronger than the one who opposes
them?
Can this marriage last? I really dont
know. In the wedding chart, Venus in Aries
links both the Moon (Kate) and the Sun (William),
to the consternation of Saturn (Chuck).
Threesomes, whether happy or not, can be
highly stable. Overall the male party William
is stronger than the female, Kate,
though both suffer. I would expect that Kate,
being both a void Moon in a mutable sign in
a cadent house, as well as a debilitated Venus,
to become emotionally unstable. Which
man will she choose? Mars, who owns her,
or Saturn, who offers old and familiar comforts
if she will but cross the line? For she
cannot have both, and it will come to that.
Which is why the court astrologer who proposed
this date should flee now. Why are
the Windsors so cruel?
This is not about sex. Sex is for the
young. Saturn is old. This is about Kates
loyalty, duty and obedience. What she owes
William as a consequence of her marriage
vows, which the marriage chart represents.
This is not part of the synastry between their
natal charts and so cannot be found in them.
William, in the guise of Mars in Aries, is too
headstrong and careless to notice, and, in the
guise of the Sun in Taurus, is too lazy to bother
with. Thus the opening to Saturn, in the misleading
guise of duty to Charles as representative
of the monarchy.
Di was of noble birth. She would have
seen this coming. Kate is a commoner.
WAS living in London at the last big
royal wedding, of Chuck and Di. Staged
in the much larger St. Pauls Cathedral.
The entire nation had
the day off. I slept in. Hazel, my neighbor,
had a TV & we glanced at it from time to
time. Hazel was a Gemini with Virgo rising,
same as Vivian Robson. As she has been deceased
some 25 years and as it is fruitless to
remind you that Viv was a guy, I may someday
slyly submit her picture as his, since there
are no pictures of Robson whatever. They
must certainly have resembled each other.
But I did see a brief YouTube of William
and Kate exchanging vows. People who care
about these things, people who care about
spectacle, will rehearse the two, will stage
the event so they squarely face each other,
peering far into each others eyes, into their
very souls, such that when the moment arrives,
they will speak their lines with a power
and conviction worthy of royal succession.
Which is what the world expected.
Instead I saw two insecure people rush the
vows. I saw William grind the ring onto Kates
finger. He was dressed all in red like a toy
soldier, as if we needed reminding that Mars,
the planet of red, was in Aries, the red sign at
the very top of the wedding chart. I could almost
smell the mothballs. The two seemed so
much smaller than his father and his bride, at
that other royal wedding, long ago. Can William
and Kate grow into the awesome roles
they must quickly assume? Can they succeed
where Chuck and Di failed?
But to remember that fated day in 1981,
I am old. Two weeks after that wedding I
left my home in London, never to return.
Can your astrology perform these feats
of analysis? No? Why the heck not? As
Goethe said, Be bold! Boldness is its own
reward. As Robson said,
As a word of advice to the beginner I would
say Do not be afraid to let yourself go in
this way. You will make many mistakes to
start with, but it is the only way to make
your Astrology of practical use. There is
too great a tendency nowadays to float about
in a comfortable haze of so-called esotericism.
The first need of Astrology is accuracy
and definition, not pseudo-religious
speculation, and it is only by concentrating
on the practical and scientific side that we
can really make Astrology of service, and
obtain for it the recognition it deserves.
WISH to be completely wrong. I wish
to be proved a fool. A bloody fool. I wish
William and Kate a long and happy life
together. Pray for them.